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Kind: captions Language: en Hello everyone, we are in compliance with kosher laws. Last time we studied donations and taxes and I gave you, oh, I gave you a formula, right? Were there pages or were there no pages? So, remember the things, write them down and rehearse them . It is very important to know how to excrete, and not just how to excrete, but also how to actually do it. With the help of the formula, there are several formulas. I told you, but it seems to me that this formula is in good order. Today we will learn okay. Today we will learn about insects, insects, which is also a serious piece that needs to be understood. We will bring some examples, bring some studies, we will try to do some research on the laws of hanging, which is something that is very, very common and very, very much requires attention. So worms or maggots, not exactly worms, but any insect. yes. Every living thing that is in an animal that is in food, we want to avoid eating. The Torah, let's start from the beginning. The Torah prohibits eating insects, crawling insects of any kind. The torment is, of course, about things that are visible to the eye, because if there is something that I don't see, then how can I be careful of it? But here is the problematic point. It could be that if you knew how to look, you would come across it here, or if you knew how to check properly, then you would know where it is. Sometimes people say, "I don't see anything here, but if I show him, he'll see it. So sometimes a black dot that you say, well, a black dot, well, what's not a black dot? It could be an insect. You see the black dot, yes, but you don't know how to identify the insect. So of course I don't have to look at all my food with a magnifying glass or a 5,000x microscope. But if a person sees something that doesn't belong to a fruit or vegetable and he doesn't know if it's an insect or not, then he needs to check, needs to check, needs to be interested, needs to search, etc. An insect in all of our minds, I do n't know. At least for me, it's something black, scary, but it's not necessarily something transparent. There are beetle eggs, it's something transparent. There are insects that are, uh, white, there are parts that are black, there are green, there are all kinds of things. So eggs are also forbidden to be eaten. A. We have a law in the Torah, it is not a law in the Torah, but it is a law that the sages determined that everything is null and void in 60 except for certain things. What does it mean to cancel at 60? For example, I'm cooking, we talked about it, sure, I'm cooking soup. In this soup, suddenly a meat soup fell with the miracle coffee. No, it fell a few drops of miracle coffee with milk in this soup and meat and milk. We have a rule that it is nullified by 60. That means if there are 60 times the four drops of miracle coffee milk that fell in the pot, then the whole pot is permissible. Right. We talked about it. Right. Nullification by 60 is known, but there are things that the sages said. It is not nullified. It is never nullified. One of them is one of the things that is not nullified. You have to study all the things that are not nullified. But one of the things that is not nullified is insects, worms, in the food. Therefore, if I'm cooking soup and I suddenly see a small mosquito like this or whatever you call it, what is it? We'll talk about it in a moment. But if I see some insect fall into my soup. Now I'm looking for it. I'm looking for it. I can't find it. I don't know. It got mixed in with the sauce. The whole soup is forbidden. Why is it forbidden? Because the sages accepted that an insect is not nullified even by God. From what law? From the law of a healthy person. What is a healthy person? Or in a shot, no matter what we call it in the language of the sages, it means that if you see a whole creature, it is not invalid even in 1000. It is true as you said that if I see half a mosquito, then it is invalid in 60. Of course, if I see it, I have to take it out, but if I see half, then I can take it out and eat it. Why, because the other half is invalid in 60? It is not that it is wrong to eat it, but it is invalid like all things that are invalid. But if it is a whole creature, it is invalid, even if it is dead. It doesn't matter if he's alive or dead. Some people say I do n't care, I freeze them in the freezer. Are you okay? You can freeze whatever you want in the freezer, but ultimately, even if that animal is a slave, then it is not permissible to eat it. So we explained the basics of the simple law. Absolutely fine. Now okay questions yes yes clear if I take out the whole creation then I am allowed to eat oh there is a taste of the whole creation of the fly fell into my cup of tea so how do I drink the tea after I took out the fly so two answers on the matter if there is 60 against this thing then of course there are people here want to enter it doesn't matter if there is 60 times then it is certainly fine if there is not 60 times then a it gives a complete defect you hear Elisaf it gives a complete defect is permissible because why does it give a complete defect because who wants to eat a fly God forbid maybe in Thailand they eat flies I know what but here thank God we don't eat anything they come a disgusting thing called giving the defect giving the defect invalid always no need Friday so we answered that too a person doesn't want to drink tea on which a fly has fallen okay he is allowed to spill the tea but whoever wants to drink can with the help of the one who gives a complete defect and also there is not 60 against the fly so all of these things are simple and therefore this prohibition It is a very serious prohibition. Second, a very serious prohibition. And there are so many things that contain insects that we need to examine now. We will do it gently, slowly. It will take us at least two lessons, but with the help of God, blessed be His name, we will overcome this matter. Yes, what did you want, Your Honor? Well, yes, if you cut it in half to take out only half, it is not a crime. That is the rule. Take out everything. It is good. No, because it is disgusting. You do not have to eat something disgusting. Go ahead. Now, we will work on four levels of food contamination. So these are the basics. We will say the basics. We will explain them. We will give examples. Then we will explain certain other things and so on and so forth because it is long. The foods we eat contain four groups of contaminants. One of us will be separated from the heavy. One by one things are kept clean. What is kept clean? It is believed that insects are not there. But why? why? Because they don't like it. That's the real reason. What for example? I don't know. Black coffee. Someone once found bugs in black coffee. No, why not? Because they don't like black coffee. Bugs don't like black coffee. So they won't get stuck there. Melons. Tomatoes. Bananas. Pears. Avocados. Melons. Plums. There are no bugs. Wait, what is it? There are no bugs. If I take half a plum, cut it into quarters, put it in some field for two weeks, and everything will grow there. Then it will probably rot there. Things will grow there. But I'm talking at home. At home, I have pears. I bought pears from the store. Good pears are not rotten. Bananas. Apples. Here it is. You eat an apple. This apple is considered clean. What is considered clean? So what is the rule? What is considered clean? The rule is that you don't have to check. It's exempt from checking. Of course, if a person sees a big black or brown spot on the apple or doesn't know what it is. Or the apple is moving around the room and slowly moving forward with the force of inertia. Okay, so it's clear that you need to use your head a little. But a regular apple. Take an apple from the store or from the meeting room. So it's okay to eat. What is it okay to eat? And if I get up at night and there's a power outage? And the generator doesn't work, I'm allowed to take an apple in the dark and eat what do you say? Yes, and if it's the gas, too, and if it's guaranteed, too, and it's a hotel, too. There are things that are kept clean, well, okay, so it's just the law that they're exempt from inspection. Two, it seems to me, it's I don't understand English. Simply put, two things that are rarely infected. It may be infected, but it's far away. It's not that common. What for example? For example, matzah. Matzo is flour. Flour lovers are very wormy but this is common. This is not common. Couscous, noodles. Have you ever seen a rare insect? Rare chocolate. In short, there are things that are rare. infected. Their rule is that they don't have to test, but they have to observe. Or I'll explain an apple, we said, can you eat it? How can you eat it? Yes, you can't eat an apple without looking. Here are things that are likely. How likely is it? Low probability. Of course, if you keep things well and thoroughly at home, if you put them on the balcony, then that's a different story. But if you keep them in a normal, good way like any home, in the refrigerator or on the counter or things like that, where insects don't move around. Therefore, this thing is worth observing. It's worth observing well. Okay, three. Now let's get into the serious stuff. You can't look. Yes, you need to observe them. It's worth observing them. Yes, look. You take chocolate. Usually, people eat and look. So you open a chocolate couscous. You open the chocolate. You're in a little while. I'll also explain something very, very important about all this. But I prefer to explain it in three. Three. So you, I'm still with you. Listen carefully. Things that are sometimes misunderstood in the language of the jurists. They call it its common pronunciation. I mean, is everything I'm going to tell you now contaminated? not. But there is a probability that is not low, low low, but rather there is a certain probability that a certain percentage is infected. Well, do you understand that the judges in all generations were looking for a certain percentage? What percentage? 20% 30% 40% Of course, if it's 90% then it's not a common person. But how common is Mewtwo? So there are big disagreements about this. Let's simplify things. There are rabbis who say 10% is infected. There are rabbis who say 5% is infected. In any case, it is common to find insects or insect eggs or worms and certain things. I will give examples in a moment, so we will be more focused. What is their ruling? We need to test. We need to test. How do we test? We will learn. So don't ask me how do we test. But we need to test. But if I haven't tested an example, you want it now. In the end, it's not good. Okay. If the priest says, then I will say what, for example, rice, dates, dates. Someone once encountered a strange thing in dates. You encountered all the dates you opened that were infected. God forbid, why is that? Except occasionally. Flour needs to be sorted, rice needs to be sorted. Oh , no So one second, garlic, onion, used, has anyone ever found a fetus inside a used one? Yes, it happens. How often does this happen? This is rare. So what is the law? It is still something that must be checked. So far okay? But I didn't check. I didn't check. What does that mean? I took flour from the store. Flour is not such a good example today, because today there is a lot of sifted flour. You buy sifted flour in stores. okay? But let's say I took, you know, let's take another example, rice. Have you ever cooked rice? Have you ever found things? Found. Whoever didn't find it is because he doesn't know how to check, but usually from time to time they find it, but I forgot to check. I took rice. Rice from a normal company, not from Thailand, in bags. Yes, in bags. I'm talking now about rice from normal companies that the State of Israel uses with a high level of health and quality. A person took rice, cooked it, what do you want it to do, and what did he cook it with tomato paste? Where are the touli now? Therefore, in such things, which are three, if you have cooked them, it is permissible to eat them. Of course if you used a cup of rice then what should you do? Check the gate. Because if you find in the gate that remains in the bag, you understand that there is now a lot of packaging left in the bag. If it says worms, it's definitely not allowed to eat, but I didn't make all the rice or I had a cup left and I made a cup of rice, so what's happening? I'm allowed to eat now. I have one left. That's right. That's four. Four. Wait a second. Four. Of course, these are the things that are infected. What are the infected things? Infected things are most often infected. Why are they labeled infected? Because they need to be tested. If you don't check, you're not allowed to eat. Or then it is a very big mistake. Here yesterday he called the woman. She said she bought a vegetable that was problematic. We'll see what happens next, no matter what . She put it in the soup. So she said what do we do? I didn't check it. Not this. So what do we do? It is considered infected. You can't eat the soup. So what do we do? Well, there's a solution in the soup. It's easier. You can take out the infected vegetable and filter the water, so that would be an option, but in retrospect you can't eat well, so I'm going to go back and say, we have four levels of contamination in fruits and vegetables, we have things that aren't infected, so you can eat them without testing, we have things that are worth testing, three, we have things that are sometimes infected, and I know that sometimes they are, like I asked you, did you find them in dates? Everyone said, yes, yes, we know what you're talking about, so dates need to be tested, dates need to be tested, dates need to be tested, and we have four, four, that are things that are infected, these are all greens, all greens, insects really like greens because of something in the oleophilic substance that's inside them. They like it, they're happy about it, because they were given to you by Sinai, so they're often there in the cover and onions, they shot the law, and this Insects are a special crop that has undergone a lot of research and development, and it really does prove itself in some cases. I mean, not every crop that comes in a bag that says it's sober or doesn't know what it is or is grown using an insect-free method is fine. We'll see, God willing, in the end, not today, but in the end, we'll see how many companies you can trust. I didn't say there are companies that can't be trusted. Let's say the companies you can trust. Not every company is written with cursive letters, a cursive is part here, a cursive is part in the onion. So you have to be careful. Not everything. After all, this is a money industry, you understand, a huge one, and it's a licensed patent. So, you were the first in Gush Ketif to do this. That's why they call it a good Gush Kativ, a good Gush Kativ, but oh, the practice, this possibility of growing without worms remains, and therefore there is a Haslat company, which is a strong company, and so of course we can say here in the yeshiva, I insisted that we only use Haslat, meaning we use sober greens, sober greens only from a company that lacks a company. So at first it was complicated because there was no line that reached Hebron, but thank God we also convinced Dekel to bring Hasnat and then we are sitting on the line that reaches the supermarket here. And thank God in the yeshiva, if you eat nearby or you eat, I don't know, usually it's not close, not lettuce. There's also sometimes lettuce and cabbage and other things, parsley and things like that. So thank God, we were able to bring here. One of the changes we made two or three years ago, I do n't remember, maybe two years ago, there used to be a few companies and today we use it. I'm closing the brackets. Okay, let's move on. Or are there any questions, please. It's called infected mokzak. I mean, I can do an experiment if you want. I'm willing to bet that someone in Jerusalem will buy lettuce in the market, not lettuce from a bunch of 4 and a half leaves. He'll buy lettuce with 4,000 leaves. Something serious like that. We'll bring it here. It'll slowly open up on me. You'll see at least we'll find some 14, 15, 20 suspicious characters that need to be removed with a laser or something. It doesn't matter. In short, yes, what is sharing? Don't listen. Clean. Let's say my hands are clean. This is it. Wait a minute. It's clean. Clean. Here you see. I do n't have any dirt here. There's a difference between dirt from washing and growing without insects. Okay, give an example just so you understand. One of the most problematic things is cauliflower and broccoli. Why? Because broccoli and cauliflower. How does it grow in the field? It grows in inflorescences. That's how it grows. That's how it grows. Slowly it grows. And then you have a big cauliflower. And at some point, the leaves close up and the insects inside have a hotel inside. And they say, what do I need to get out of here? I have two years' worth of food here, so it stays in there. Now do an experiment. I did a simple experiment. It's a simple experiment. You don't have to be a licensed swindler to do this. Take a relative, wash her under the tap. Clean. She is clean, she is washed. The water will never reach the top, to the inside. They don't come because it's tightly closed. Broccoli like this and cube like that . And so if you see a product that says cauliflower is washed clean, it won't help me a penny. If it says it 's insect-free, it's not certain that it will help me either because you have to check which company it is from and you have to see who made it, but it can help me more. For example, if you buy Sanpost, Sanpost has you know what it is. It's a company that makes forced vegetables. So, those who know Sanpost, which one? There's shiitake. There's a. I don't know. Hummus. You know, there's broccoli, and there's broccoli. As for the badetz, it will never be whole. It will never be whole because they cut it to completely check what's inside. Then they wash it in a very, very strong stream and examine it and test it, and so on. But that's just to give an example. Because I've gotten a little bit further away from our land. I'm getting back to business. How do you check certain things? But there are four levels of contamination. It's understandable to everyone. We can also move forward. No, flour no, I didn't say Wednesday. Yes, because this flour is flour that is usually sifted today, so you don't have to sift it. Regular flour that you buy needs to be sifted, but rare flour is not like sprinkling. It's rare to have insects on it but it can happen. Okay, now no you're right you're right so I tried without success but then I explain the green things it would usually be four green onions answered parsley cilantro chard cabbage dill a broccoli cauliflower cauliflower it's not green but it's getting close to green okay? So that's four that you're satisfied with so you have to examine it but now I'll give you a rule legumes are three here so now I want to explain how to examine legumes a moment just give me this because otherwise we wo n't move forward so give me this if there are any questions I'll be very happy to answer but maybe not right now legumes are usually three I'll explain first of all how you buy legumes in the store it starts in the store let's say this is my box of legumes usually there are no boxes for legumes right it's packaging mm mm plastic like this yes plastic that you call it that's fine so let's say this is this so how do you buy it if possible there are companies that don't have everything scrambled there are companies that you don't see anything you look you don't see anything but if it's less scrambled it's better so what do you do do this take the k the package it's not gone what am I telling you yes this is a tip for locker life the package is done like this turn it around because the package is standing like this here it says white white let's say lentils it doesn't matter semolina grits it doesn't matter so I turn it around first because it's always been like this in the store It's always been like this because when a person sees, they want to see what's written, not the other way around. Unlike the Yemenis, we read straight through. So what happens? So he opens it, does it like this, turns. What does it become? Then he tries to drop, drop, transfer the entire contents of the grits or anything else into his mouth. And now we need to look here. If you see webs, threads, or moisture at the bottom of the package, it's better to have the neighbor buy. Because it's a sign of affection. okay? This is first of all a tip. I'll give you a tip. This is an important tip that is also true. So it's worth it. Very beautiful. Now how do you test legumes? We said three legumes. Did we say that right? So what do we do with legumes? So we do it like this . Listen carefully because this is usually something that is not familiar. If you can bring it home, that's best. Let's say lentils. Wheat. Take the package, put it in a strainer. Of course, the sieve should have holes smaller than the sieve , otherwise everything will pass through. But you take it in a strainer, you can buy it for a few shekels, and then you pour it on a white surface. If you rinse on a black surface, it won't help much, but you take a sheet like this, it's written on all sides. You take a sheet like this, you know, a white sheet. You put it there. You rinse all these beans for a minute or two. Then you look first. It gives a lot of indication of what's going on in this package. If you only see the pods of the beans, that's completely natural, that's fine. But if you suddenly see insects and see them, then you're in trouble because this thing is infected. And now if you want to use it, you have to pick them out one by one. Picking them out is not a problem. The problem is one by one. So it's worth doing this with everything you buy. First, turn them over in the store and see if there's any moisture or anything strange. Two, run them through a strainer and then you see what happens. If you have small holes then you will be able to see it on the bottom surface and it is very difficult for example in lentils to pick out the insect lentils especially with the stylus if the lentils are black and therefore it is not worth buying black it is better to buy orange orange it is easier for a moment in stage 2 what do you do you pick out the lentils you put it on a surface and you move them slowly while observing between the grains because there are insects that are inside the grains in a little while it will look like for example hummus in a second I will explain and there are things that are between the grains like for example rice the rice weevil which is a known insect is between the grains and therefore you open it and slowly you can pick out of course in goods that are not of good quality so it is even more complicated and you have to look at it even more and more but in good and quality goods you have to pour it on a surface to see that you do not have soft ones and move forward to pick them out one by one so this is about say wheat lentils groats a things like that hummus hummus shiitake it is a special thing that the hummus is dry and when the hummus is dry you cannot see insects inside Hummus and therefore the simplest advice there is that you should soak the legumes in water what does the water do what does what does with that water inside it swells the legumes swells the legumes now you have hummus from a tin how many hours do you need how many hours do you just throw away but in cold water it takes seven eight hours in hot water maybe less three hours four hours so that's why a person knows that tomorrow he cooks hummus at night before he goes to bed he takes the package puts it in a container with water goes to bed to sleep in the morning the hummus has grown not grown it has swelled not grown it is swollen now what do you do now I'm testing how I do it take a small handful and pass it and look I look what you're supposed to see what you're supposed to see a black dot a black dot in hummus not necessarily but a black dot in hummus could be an insect inside by the way I found an insect several times in hummus I was so happy to find it I read all the children I told them look look look how beautiful not so beautiful but anyway you see a black dot the hummus is not dry it is a bit soft because it has been in the water for many hours you open the It's suddenly tech, an insect comes out to you, says hello to you, and is released from the hummus prison, not hamsi, beautiful hummus, so it's about Shua'it, about hummus for visas in water, and then five or six grains are transferred to them. I'll be back in a second for questions. Do it like this: tick tick tick tick tick tick. Put it in place, turn the grains over and check it. Oh, and anything suspicious should be checked thoroughly. Like that with beans, like that with hummus. By the way, here in the meeting, and with this I'm finishing, do you have any questions? This is how you soak all the legumes. There was a story not long ago that happened. There was a story with the hummus, the hot ones, the hummus. But usually, thank God, you soak everything and a supervisor checks it. As I told you, he goes over the things. The best thing to look for in rice is an orange surface. You see a lot of that. I don't know if you have an orange surface here. We had an orange surface in the kitchen. Therefore, when you break rice, there is a rice-selection machine. There is a selection machine because every day there is I don't know how many kilos of rice. They make a lot of it here. So it's impossible to choose with this. So we bought it. I said, "This is it. A person can't do it. In the end, he will be like this. His eyes will be like this. So we bought a rice-making machine here and we break rice with this thing." So far, if there are any questions, please let me know . No, that won't help because it's just things that are inside of me. They don't always float. They don't always float. And sometimes you have grains that are hollow so they either float or don't float. not. What you need to do is you can wash it first in the river on a surface. You'll see what comes out of there. You'll see it's not exactly the same. There are also sometimes grains that rise, grains that come out, that fall or float. That's not scientific. I do n't know. Maybe there are many things to it, I don't know. But what I know from home, from experience, is not like that. yes. Need to check. It might not be a problem because sometimes hummus gets hit. Even when it gets hit, it's usually a browner spot, but a black spot is worth checking. What do you do? You open it and you look. If it's just a little bit, but sometimes it's folded. What do you really see? It's not that hummus is forbidden. Because you understand for yourself that this hummus doesn't necessarily grow with this hummus. It's a reunion, but it's not that they were together in the field and stayed in love with each other until you have your plate. All the hummus. You're checking. My mistake. So maybe I made a mistake and wasn't clear enough. It's good that you asked. When I said to check, it's handful after handful. It wasn't clear. It wasn't clear. It wasn't clear. So I apologize profusely. You asked. My mistake. I repented. You check a handful. Put it aside. You check another handful until the end. You understand that when there's about 10 kilos of hummus, it takes time. But that's how you do it. Yes, please. Teachers need to talk. I didn't start with that. I don't have the time. So just about what we talked about. You're right. A very good question. I'm not evading, but I don't want to answer. You're asking a different question. You're asking what happens in restaurants. We don't talk about canned hummus. Canned hummus, what's in a strainer. So here too, you're asking a question. Otherwise, we don't have the time to check it now and examine what we grind. What we grind, we'll have to learn it. But if you stop the hummus, then even if there was an insect there, it's also crushed. If it's crushed, an insect, then it's invalid at 60. So I don't have a problem with that. Although restaurants like Madrin and so on and so forth, the crazy one is serious about checking the hummus and the rice and these things. Rice. I can't say it's invalid because it's not crushed. But with hummus, that's how we rule. Yes, it's similar to broken popcorn. Let's talk about it. Yes, Luisa, what kind of legume is it? Tea leaves? What's not? I know. I know what a good luscious is, but this is us. This is a new story. You're asking about what we talked about before. Good answer. I'll answer this because it's simpler. A person can buy a shoulder block. It doesn't grind much. It tastes so good. So what can you do? Buy a fine strainer. There's a strainer. If anyone wants to see it, I have one. Go see it instead. It's a strainer that has kosher status. In the opinion of the Haredi Sida, it's the densest there is. Can't get through even the smallest ones. The smallest ones. You can use a regular banana or a banana peel and filter dry leaves. The same goes for dry leaves. There's a problem. It's not a problem like fresh leaves. But sometimes there's a problem. After a year, it could be a virgin tree. But how do you know it's before? After a year, if you dried them for a year, it might be easier. You're right. Yes, last question. This is about missing the holiday. No, no, no. So that's not accurate. I disagree. I disagree. You're not looking for a black spot. I can eat hummus like that and then I don't see any black spots. But if I look and I look and I know that there's a certain probability of contamination in this thing. Pay attention. It's not like I took an apple. Now I'm doing a thesis with a magnifying glass and looking for something in hummus. There's a significant portion of dates in hummus. In the soup, in the lentils, there are insects in these things. Now you don't have to look for them. Magnifying rights. On the other hand, if there's a black spot and you see the black spot and you say, "I'm ignoring the black spot," then it doesn't matter. You can also close everything with your eyes closed. Or you blocked fasts or green onions fasts but that's not the point no it's not accurate I can show you but it's true it's much more complicated there's another rule in this if it's possible to test something that needs testing you must test it's a simple rule in opinion polls something you can test you need to test not an apple no that's what I answered him what I changed to an apple you don't have to because it's not infected. But in things that are reasonable or at least without knowing what's in the lettuce you can't say I don't see what it is you don't see you don't see because you don't look at all the methods mainly the law if I don't see it in not a job I need what's the difference between confirming no not a magnifying glass it you don't see her at all you know now you're a soul there's in the air you know how many things there are in the air here's a fact people get sick with the flu where does it come from where did you see something going around that says flu on it there are things that we we stamp them. There are things in water, there are things in air. The Torah does not refer to things that cannot be seen. But in matters of the heart, we speak separately. Well, I, you see, we opened up a lot of issues here that I didn't want to answer because everything like that needs to be studied. Today we talked a little bit about legumes. We still have a lot of work to do regarding insects and how to check for cold, wet, and of course, hunting. B