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Daf hayomi BEKHOROT page 9

Daf hayomi BEKHOROT page 9

Rav Chemouny Benyamin ·

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We started off swimming with the fish. Afterward, we moved on to the story of Rabbi Joshua ben Hanania and the sages of Athens. >> And in the end, we finished the last four lines. So he prepared a boat with 60 cabins. You will see why right away. >> With all the questions they asked, we understood there are many commentaries, even some Kabbalistic ones. not to buy not in the end he won them over and brought them onto the boat. arrived there.

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Bechorot, a very beautiful page. We started off swimming with the fish. Afterward, we moved on to the story of Rabbi Joshua ben Hanania and the sages of Athens. >> And in the end, we finished the last four lines.

So he prepared a boat with 60 cabins. You will see why right away. >> With all the questions they asked, we understood there are many commentaries, even some Kabbalistic ones. not to buy not in the end he won them over and brought them onto the boat.

arrived there. >> There you go, he gave each one he put each of them into his own cabin, and since each saw 60 chairs, he was sure someone else was coming. So they were all separated on that boat. He released the rope, meaning he set the boat off, he took a bit of earth, and here I am moving to page 9b when they arrived at the Bermuda Triangle, there it is.

Now, Rabotai, this is where Rashi comes in. Look at how the Talmud speaks of that place, and Rashi says there is water that swallows everything. There it is, it swallows everything. It is the Bermuda whirlpool.

Right? So the boat arrived there. Now, I don't know if they were drowned or not, but he had put a little bit of that water in a vessel. >> And when they arrived before the Caesar when they arrived, they lost all their wisdom, he said these are not the ones I know.

Malka, they spoke poorly to the king. He used the water he had taken in the boat. And there, they drank from that water which—I don't know how it's translated here—they had no more water. They were swallowed up.

Well, there you go. >> There, Rabotai, they finished their story. Yeah. >> That’s how it ends, on a high note, of course.

There is much to delve into regarding this great debate between the sages of Athens, but we’re done with the fish. We’re resuming, don’t forget that our chapter deals with the redemption of the firstborn. Yeah. It’s true we had a little >> the fish page >> we are getting back down to earth a donkey that gave birth to twins.

All right. Two males, what do we do? Who is the firstborn? So of the All right.

So it is certain he must give a lamb to the Cohen. It doesn't matter which one, it is holy. Because there were two males. But if we have a boy and a girl, wait, the boy >> all right, for the firstborn, he takes both, he exchanges one of the two for a sheep, and the sheep goes to the Cohen.

The result is good. But when there is one that doesn't fit >> we don't know. Yeah, but we don't know who came out first. If it's the girl, there is no redemption of the firstborn of the twins.

He he gives he exchanges for a sheep, but this sheep he is not obligated to give to the Cohen. He is in doubt and but he sets it aside, and if the Cohen manages to bring proof, like Rashi says, that it's the boy who came out first, I don't know what. It's a veterinarian, he set up cameras, and voila, then the Cohen can claim the sheep instead of >> a guarantee. So he puts down a guarantee >> but how long will it last for?

>> Oh, I don't know. done if we have two donkeys that gave birth, both, we don't know who birthed what. It doesn't matter, if the two that gave birth are boys, these two firstborn donkeys, two sheep for the Cohen in exchange >> if they gave birth the the Cohen. Whoa!

There are many that gave birth, one gave birth to a boy, one gave birth to a girl, we put one aside for the Cohen. Two girls and a boy >> no, because if she gave birth to two girls, two donkeys that gave birth to two girls plus a twin. meaning twins boy and girl and >> you don't know which >> and a girl, you don't know who, how there is no >> bik a donkey that it's not her first, she had already given birth, and one for which it's the first time, but both gave birth at the same time and we don't know whose baby is whose. >> What do we do with Mr.

Cohen, eh? >> Solomon, we call him King Solomon, and the friends of bravo >> these notions also in the offerings, when the Cohen mixed it, there was a korban, exactly. >> We saw that, bravo. So, what do we do?

Not for the Cohen. He gives one aside because it's certain that there is one that is, even if we don't know which, but there is one that is a firstborn. You give a sheep. If we have one that gave birth to a boy and another that gave birth to a girl, but one of the two is not her first birth.

Then there, he keeps it for himself. The Cohen, it is up to him to bring proof, not to the man. Don't forget that the sheep used to redeem that donkey can be a sheep, a goat, male, female, small, large, intact, or not intact. And we can even perform multiple first-born donkey redemptions on the same sheep.

It becomes part of the owner's flock at the end of the year, and if it dies, then the Kohanim can benefit from it, I don't know, make a rug out of the skin, etcetera. That is our subject. Rabbi, Gemara line 19, who is the rabbi of our Mishnah? Certainly not him.

According to Rabbi, both are first-borns, requiring two sheep when she gives birth to twins. >> Well done. One source says "peirotav," not "peiro," implying even if there are many. Ah, that's incredible.

It's just that for the donkey it says "peirotav," but for the first-born sheep and other things, it says "peiro." So for the donkey, it is possible to have >> two first-born donkey redemptions for twin boys. Well, everyone has their source. The condition is that the two heads came out at the same time. So when the Torah uses the plural, apparently it is possible for the donkey to give birth to both and both heads emerge at the same time.

Agreed. I don't know, I'm not a veterinarian nor a zoologist. It is impossible for two heads to come out at the same time. >> Line 4.

What did we see in the Mishnah about what happens if there is doubt? Then, he sets it aside for himself, he keeps it for himself, and the Kohen must claim it. And you have a question: until when? And why keep it for himself ?

I don't know how the Kohen, if he doesn't bring proof right away, is he going to bring it in a month? >> So what is this story? >> No internet, there were no social networks. He performed the redemption, there is a doubt.

And even in this doubt, so as not to benefit from this sheep, even that is a debate between two rabbis. Are we allowed to benefit from the exchange of the first-born redemption? If it must be exchanged, it means it is sanctified nonetheless. But concerning the redemption of a first-born boy, it must be redeemed at the age of 30 days, right?

For a boy who is born a first-born, we invite the Kohen. Bravo, we perform the Pidyon. But if we haven't done the Pidyon, are we still allowed to benefit from the child, right? Yes.

>> Agreed. So with the sheep it should be the same thing. Even if it was exchanged for a lamb, you currently have the right to benefit from that sheep, to take its milk, to take its wool, I don't know what. So how can you say, Rabbi, that it's forbidden?

Yes, because it is not the sheep that was sanctified. Rabia didn't have a sheep; he gave, uh, I don't know, plants, trees. There you go, >> herbs. >> Herbs.

>> It's a value, right? >> Yes, a value. So, you see that you have the right to benefit. But if someone has fruits and exchanged them for a coin, that coin, he is obligated to spend it in Jerusalem.

He cannot use it for personal benefit. So, is it the same with if someone married a woman with that coin he exchanged for fruits, the marriage is not valid because he must use that coin in Jerusalem. However, if she takes the coin and goes to Jerusalem, she is married because she consumed what the husband gave in the place where it is allowed to be consumed. Not if it's Nathan; she is not married.

And is it the same here, that she can get married with the sheep that was exchanged for the redemption of the firstborn? He says no, there is no problem. We have the right to use it . Since when have we exchanged something?

It keeps its holiness. Okay. In the we have the right to exchange. We do the whole thing today and we eat.

It's not exactly that, but it's similar . But if it exceeds, there is a deadline for the fruits of and if he exchanged those fruits for meat, then it can be transferred. So, there is a source in the Torah that you have the right to work with your bull or with what has been exchanged, but do not use the wool of your firstborn sheep. But if there is a non-Jewish partner, you have the right.

Whereas for humans and for donkeys, we have the right to use them even if the redemption has not been >> done. >> Right? It's not that if you haven't redeemed him, the child is set aside until the Cohen arrives. Who is going to feed him?

Who is going to clothe him ? It's the same with the with the and not humans who how to say sheep and not men it says that if we are partnered with a non-Jew, we must give the redemption of the firstborn to the Cohen and we have the right to >> benefit from the wool, etc. It's okay, your...And we are even allowed, we don't even have to give the firstborn if there is a non-Jewish partner. There is no firstborn for the, but according to the language of...according to him, it's complicated.

The Torah tells you: your sheep, your bull, and not the others. If he doesn't have a sheep to exchange, the don...you know what we have to do with the donkey? The firstborn, break its neck. >> And in that case there was no exchange and in that case it is forbidden to profit from what remains of the >> of how do we know in the first three years, the mixtures of forbidden plants .

The bull that killed someone and was stoned, the calf whose neck was broken for two cities that had a corpse, the leper's birds, the redemption of the firstborn donkey, the milk, the meat: all of these, we are not allowed to profit from them. But if we touch them, we can become impure. We contract impurity with the produce of the but the rest that milk and meat can contract impurity because they are two basic kosher products that the mixture made forbidden. But all the others, the broken neck, the donkey, the leper's bird, all that, they are inedible.

So there is no impurity. There is page 9 in 15 minutes. Amen. Amen.

Don't forget , we do it in 15 minutes, we could spend 15 days per page. So bravo to all those who are with us >> and we move forward. Have an excellent day. Only good news for all the people of Israel.

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