Daf hayomi HOULIN page 141

42 a little bit more and we finish beautifully with this special mitzvah in the Torah. Very special, >> it is beyond us, even the reward is beyond us, eh. We will talk about that on the last page. So we have some details left.

How to send away the mother? Do you have to, if you sent her away and she returned, do you have to send her away again and again? Here is our Mishnah. We arrived yesterday at line 9.

Even if she came back four or five times, the mother, you must do it again, that means you cannot take the children. >> There. You are obligated to send her away, if she is there and you take them in front of her, that is not the goal either. He did the opposite, he kept the mother, he only took the children.

No, you must send away the mother. That , in parentheses, is something to do as well. If someone comes across this mitzvah, he took the eggs, the birds or the eggs, he has nothing to do but he took them, he used them, he filmed them , he can put them back. That is what is written there.

You put them back. After that, if the mother has returned, you are not obligated once more >> to send them away. The mission has been accomplished. Here is our subject.

Line 12, marked in the Mishnah, two times. Why did you tell me Tunisian? Even 5 times, if the mother comes back, even 100 times, okay? So as long as she is there, you can do it.

Of course, you did it once, you performed the mitzvah, but if you want to let other people benefit. Do you remember the gentleman who was there who used to do it, there was a gentleman, Rav Saka, a few years ago from Kiryat Sanz, Jerusalem. That was his mission, he would send people, Rav Kanievsky would send people to him so they could have children where there were many nests. And he knew all the nests in Netanya and he would set up appointments for people.

He wouldn't say where the nest was, eh. People would arrive, hop, here is a nest, do the mitzvah, he knew the details. So he could do it four or five times in the same nest, >> not with the same people, eh. As long as the mother, after it has been done once, she returned.

And that is why I say it is not entirely true. People say , "No, the mother abandons it and never comes back." No, it depends on which ones we have seen. Israeli pigeons, they never abandon them, eh. >> Even I know, I once had a nest, I threw out the eggs and the mother came back as if she were crying when she was looking.

>> Yeah, but she returned. Oh yeah, looking. There are no more to do, it's not a sin if it wasn't done. Agreed.

It is, but you have to do it. And if he took the mother? It's fine, it's fine, that's the policy. Well, they say that as long as he hasn't taken the mother and hasn't slaughtered the mother, he hasn't committed a sin.

He hasn't done it, but he hasn't committed a sin. In that case, he hasn't done anything. If he had taken the mother, he didn't want to send her away at first, he wanted to take her for something else. And afterwards he said, look, I'll take advantage of this, I'll do the...it's not done.

Wanting to take advantage because he was a leper and needed to take a bird, and he said, "Alright, I'll take it," does that work? Can he take it now, even if he wanted to perform a mitzvah for the end of his leprosy? He says yes, because when the leprosy ends, he goes back to his wife, because while he had leprosy, he wasn't allowed to be with his wife, and how important God finds that for him, the sending away and the wife. Look at how much the Torah thinks about him.

In that case, he can use the bird for himself. >> Come on, another Mishnah. >> A hotel. If he took the children in front of the mother, she's there, she doesn't want to move.

Rabbi Yehuda said he commits a sin, he deserves 39 lashes . That's not it. No, as long as he sent her away a little bit, even if she didn't go far, she's nearby. What do you want to do?

It's the...Never 39 lashes for something like that. It's not that if you don't do it, you get lashed. If you do it, you've won. You'll see what he will win.

So it says there is still a sin if he didn't do the...and he gets lashed. Gas. If someone stole and returned it, do we still have to hit him or not because he committed a sin? Yes, I'm turning the page.

>> I turned to page 141 B. I don't agree with your version, that's not in my Mishnah. It's not possible that there are 40 lashes for this. In the obligation to leave some for the poor in the field, if he didn't do it on purpose, according to Raba, in that case, >> you receive lashes.

You committed a sin . It tells you: "Hello, abandon it." Now that it has been abandoned, you can no longer go back and say: "I'm taking this back, it's for the poor." And there, accordingly, you deserve some other example. It's in the paschal lamb that it says: "Must leave nothing until the morning." Same for the paschal lamb , if he didn't do what...or not. And it's the same here for the mother and the birds.

It's not only does he get lashes, he can no longer redo the [ mitzvah] now >> with the same, with the same one there, >> he ruined it. How far must we send the mother away? Just until I can no longer catch her. As soon as I no longer have access to the mother with my hand, >> It's good, he did another version, sorry, with it he does it, even if she grows, she can't fly away, she walks.

I blocked her, it's good. If I cut her wings, she can no longer fly away, it's useless. A story: there was one who cut the wings of a bird and she had children, and he sent the mother away, but since he had cut her wings beforehand, it was on purpose to be able to catch her again later. He went, he said: 39 lashes, if you want to redo the [mitzvah], you have to wait until the feathers...

>> grow back and you can do the [mitzvah], for now you are punished. And it's not like he said he can never redo the [ mitzvah] with this one; he can redo it when she has [feathers] and [he suffered] the lashes he received. It was just so that next time he wouldn't try to be clever. >> Alright, let's finish with one last story for today.

We'll leave the end for tomorrow. It must be a bird that was kosher. Can I do the [mitzvah]? You don't know if it's kosher, so you do [ it].

The problem is that he only does one, he never does the one [that...] you can. So he went to do the [mitzvah] but he set traps around it to be able to catch the mother. >> So what, didn't we say you can't? It...

it wasn't him who did his [mitzvah], it was Rabbi Rava, he set traps, he said when [I] send away the [mother]... >> I'm going to catch the bird. Is he allowed? That's not the same.

What did he do, what did he say? But the people didn't see him. He said no, he had done it secretly. Uh...

>> let's stop. Yeah, >> there we go, this way we'll save the last stories for tomorrow. We'll finish this very heavy tractate in style. Thank you all for being here and for watching.