Daf hayomi HOULIN page 124

the end of page 1240 and a few more, I think >> to finish. So there you go, in a few minutes we'll catch up on the holiday gap. It's like how we had "slichot" back then, it took the gold from the morning class and then uh the catch-up. So we are in the laws of impurity.

We are in chapter 9. Rabbi Omer, first line. We are talking about an oven from back then, an oven that absorbed impurity. No, when I say page 124, it's in the Talmud.

For us, it's 187, sorry. It says >> Oh yeah, yeah, good >> it was good >> you were very good. So the oven of the time, it was 40 cm, it was made of lime like this, we say lime >> And you had to scrape a bit of the lime , and that way, if the oven had absorbed impurity back then from an insect or something, when you cancel it , you break it and then rebuild it, so it's koshered. It needs to be less than 4 handbreadths, 40 cm that's enough.

It must be scraped down to the ground. That's not enough. It must be broken into three. Let me make a small parenthesis >> into three.

A parenthesis, if someone, let's say, bought a utensil today >> that is made in China and doesn't have a mikvah, can't immerse it to make it made in Israel, so one of the solutions , okay, is to disassemble a piece. But disassemble in what way? So there you go, it's the same thing. There are several opinions, some will tell you just to unplug it, but no, in Halacha it must be manual, it must be something not just anyone can do.

So you really have to cut the wire or redo it or disassemble it. So here too, that's how they disassembled the oven back then to make it kosher. So even back then when they built the oven, they built it in three pieces. In case it absorbed impurity, it could be disassembled.

And we're talking about a large oven. If it's small, the oven is small, you don't need 40 cm to disassemble it. There were small ovens that the girls played with, and it was very small, 10 cm. The ovens of the time, imagine something, a piece like this made of lime, you put wood inside and heated the pot.

>> Was it made of stone or clay? So for the small one, a small break is enough, and for the big one, if it's 40 cm, you need the whole length. There were ovens of 9 handbreadths, 90 cm. There were clay ovens.

All that is with clay, but if it's fabric. There you go. So, it's enough to dismantle it a little bit. It's the same for leather.

If there is a hide, that's the origin of our subject, a hide from an animal that was impure and we cut it to make belts or shoes with it. As soon as the hide is cut, it no longer has the status of impurity and now it becomes skin that you can work with, even if it's pig or something that is impure by origin. That is the skin must be less than 50 cm no matter what. Less than 50 cm, one cannot even use it as a cushion to sit on.

There you go, that was the first subject. Now I am starting a new Mishna , line 30, dear friends. Mishna, since these are rules of impurity, it is a bit complicated for us to understand because today we don't have the red heifer. But back then, if someone touched–even today, eh–but someone who touches a piece of a corpse, okay, a piece of someone's skin, in the skin there is impurity.

It depends on if there is flesh behind the skin. Right? But if there is flesh, even if he touched the skin, if you will, he catches the impurity. So, that is our Mishna.

How much flesh must there be at minimum in the skin for there to be impurity? Kazait, what is it? Kazait, 30 grams. I'm not talking about food here, I am talking about a piece of a corpse at 4 a.m.

That's the Mishna. So if there is a kazait of meat, of flesh, we're talking about meat, huh. You told me a piece for >> a piece of skin, uh human, human skin with the flesh that is there, 30 grams minimum. In that case, even if the man touched the hair/skin, there is impurity.

Less than that, no. Look, there were two pieces of skin, 15 grams and 15 grams. There isn't 30 grams in the same piece. If someone touched both , is he impure because he touched 30 grams, or does the fact that these 30 grams are in two pieces mean there is no impurity?

Of course, in the Gemara, you know, there are two opinions. If the two are attached with a toothpick, okay? I sometimes make parentheses for current events. Someone who has no bread for Shabbat, he only has bread for the kids 'sandwiches, that sliced bread.

>> Yeah. >> What does he do? Or the sandwich bread, >> he takes a skewer, puts it in the bread and now the bread is >> whole. >> It is whole and he uses it.

So here too , if he takes a toothpick, he has joined the two pieces of flesh, it becomes impure. Well, are you with me, line 34, you see, it's 4 a.m. type of topics. >> Well, hold on, let me get you up to speed.

So if it's an animal that was bitten by a dog and a little piece remains like that, okay, an animal or a human being, >> then, but if it's cut with a knife, it's not the same. He was in Israel, he saw, he said what is this story about skin, leather, the skin with the no, I don't agree with him. Good thing he's the president's son-in-law. What is this story?

This, when he told this story of two pieces of skin or flesh there, of 15 grams and 15 grams? Impure only when you carry them and not when you touch them. All that if it was bitten by a dog, but not if it was cut with a knife. I wouldn't have believed it.

I'm turning the page. What is "ad" in Arabic, it's >> the skin, it is detached. Do the pieces that were joined by the toothpick and then separated, does the impurity go away or not? There are two opinions.

Does the impurity remain or not? It was joined a first time, then it detached. It can no longer be joined again. Only when it is joined, the impurity remains , it is joined with the toothpick.

In the Torah, it is written twice: one is "touching," one is "carrying." Example, on Shabbat I have the right to touch; I have the right to touch a car, the problem is what, moving it and not touching it. So here too in the rules of impurity, there are two opinions between Rabbi Akiva and Rabbi...Is the problem when you touch it, it becomes impure, or when you carry it? What do we call that? We eat couscous with bones with the...the thing inside, they call it the marrow bone.

>> The marrow bone. If there is a bone that is closed and inside there is marrow, 30 grams of marrow. Does the bone become impure because there is something edible inside or not? What are you going to answer me now?

You are always of two minds, as in the Talmud anyway. Always two opinions. No, because he eats a ton of blood. Rabël, it's a big question, and apparently even when he carries it, he doesn't touch the inside.

So, there is no direct contact with the food. We take the two pieces back, held together with a toothpick. That's no good for carrying them. When you lift, you lift two pieces separately, separately.

There is no impurity. So that's the answer. I'm finishing the page. So everything that is carried at once, if he lifts one and the other piece lifts with it, well, they are considered two pieces held together.

There you go, guys, in a nutshell, page 124. Amen, >> wait, we're not finished, we're continuing, okay?