Daf hayomi BEKHOROT page 19

Good, B >> Excellent day, nothing but good news. Amen. >> It’s going to be a beautiful day today. >> Yeah, it's a beautiful day God willing.

>> Right, we’re going to finish chapter number 2 today God willing. Page 19. Right, we have the Mishnah left. We are in the last 12 lines of page 18B.

Do you have the Mishnah? >> Which line is the first one? >> 31. >> Page 202 for us, right?

>> 2025. >> Oh, I see. >> So 19. >> Yeah.

>> No, line. We're good. >> So. Someone who has sheep, it’s the first time they are both giving birth.

So both of them are firstborns. Are we in agreement? It doesn’t matter whose baby is whose. We agree, we don’t have to know who the mother is because we know there are only two mothers and it’s their first delivery.

They had two boys. Okay. If there was a boy and a girl at the delivery, then the male for the Cohen. It’s starting to get complicated.

They gave birth to twins, fraternal twins. Result: two deliveries, two boys, one girl. What do we do? >> From the same mother, that’s...

>> No, there are two mothers here. >> There are two mothers. >> Oh really? Except for the Cohen, no matter what happens, there is a firstborn, that’s for sure.

>> Yes. >> Very good. That one for the Cohen and the rest for him. >> Rabbi...

Which one does he give to the Cohen now ? In that case, the better the... He always has the same idea. He says Cohen, actually it’s the Cohen who chooses.

No, it’s the owner. Why does Rabbi Akiva always say, "Hello Mr. Cohen, bring proof that this one is yours and you take it." Otherwise, I choose for you. And for the one that remains, the second one, he is also in doubt, maybe it’s for the Cohen, isn’t it?

Because there are two babies, a girl there, so what do we do with the second one? We leave it until... Until it gets a blemish, and then he can eat it. When we have a barbecue, matanot, we must give the extra gifts to the Cohen: the shoulder, the cheek, and the stomach .

He did, Rabbi, he says no need for gifts to the Cohen because it’s a doubt of... We did all this yesterday but under other conditions. Before Mr. Cohen arrives, one of those three died.

Well, not the girl, one of the two boys died. Rabbi, the one that remains, we split it . Mishnah says never, Mishnah says, " Sir, bring proof that the one that died was yours." Agreed. So if you have no proof, I keep the rest.

Wow! If the gentleman left for France, he left two sheep behind, he comes back and sees "Mazaltov," there are two boys and two girls... two fraternal twins. >> This is for the Cohen.

>> Maybe the girl was the first one out of the two. What do we see from all this Mishna here? Uh, there are always doubts. Well, and when there are doubts, then the Cohen gets nothing at all.

>> Good. Line 40. Why does the Mishna repeat this? That was yesterday's topic.

The Gemara said, no, it's not like yesterday. Here we have more. There are more children than yesterday. Yesterday it was twins, but here, since there are more, I would have thought you give a little to the Cohen, and that Rabbi Akiva would have agreed with Rabbi Tarfon.

No, Rabbi Akiva has a rule. Anyone who wants to get money from someone, gift or no gift...Cohen or not , bring proof. No proof, nothing at all I turn to today's page, 19. And that is why we added this case, which is not quite the same as the first one.

And there we go, now we move on to today's page, Bechorot. Mishna, and we finish the chapter today , God willing. "Yotzei Dofen," oh, cesarean section in French. Until now, we talked about normal births Now, we will talk about cesarean sections—not a classic cesarean, a cow's cesarean, right.

Well, >> anyway. >> In the Torah, it is clearly specified that all firstborns have their status when they come out naturally. First, it comes out of the path of... If it was the cow's first birth and it's a cesarean, and the second is normal.

Rabbi Meir says both are doubtful... firstborn. That means the Cohen gets nothing, but I wait until...I keep them, I can't sell them, I can't, I wait until they have a blemish. It's not...

Both are not... born naturally, and the second is not the firstborn. Not only for cows, even for a firstborn in a classic birth. In fact, what is their debate?

The Chachamim say "firstborn," no matter which path it comes out, it is... the first, it's the condition that it comes out of the womb; if not out of the womb and not natural birth, not a Now, it's...there is a topic that is very well known. In the Torah, there are 13 rules for deriving deductions, that’s how we say, legal derivations. >> Directive >> Directive means sometimes there is the same word here and the same word here; it’s called a decree of equivalence.

They told me in French, I see—I don’t know how to translate it, but in Hebrew , it’s Gezerah Shavah. There’s a fortiori, there are numerical values. All that is called rules. Like in mathematics, there are rules; you have to know them.

There are 13 of them in the Torah. It is Rabbi Ishmael who cites them. Some read them every morning before starting the morning prayer. It is written, "Rabbi Ishmael Omer." >> Fundamental rules, you know.

A little. >> Yeah. It means that sometimes the Torah ... >> The Torah talks to you about a subject three times.

Once it talks to you in the singular, once in the plural, and once again in the singular. Ah, there is a rule. Singular, plural, singular, it means the singular...If there were plural, singular, these are rules. Here , we are going to talk a bit about that , because we are going to read it right away with the lines.

When the Torah says to you: "Sanctify to Me every firstborn," perhaps also a girl? Therefore, it adds "male," the word " zachar." If it had only been written "firstborn, " then even if there had been a girl first, perhaps the second male would still be the firstborn boy for the Kohen. No, the Torah adds... He must be the first to come out of the womb.

If he is the first to come out of the womb, well, it doesn't matter if there was a C-section before; it’s the first now to come out of the womb. And the Torah adds: no, he must also be the firstborn of the family. That is why these are the rules of the Torah. Every word specifies something else.

It’s a good thing the Torah added this word because, without the word, we would have said that even if he isn't the firstborn because there were miscarriages before, we would still have thought he fits the firstborn category— the first from the womb and the natural path. All that can be studied without the word I'm turning the page. So, why does the Torah add the word? 19B it is, it came out right after a C-section.

If the Torah hadn't specified the word " zachar," I would have said that if the first C-section was a boy and the second a boy, then the second—the second normal , normal delivery—the second one is not a firstborn. But if the first was a female, meaning that the first one, the first cesarean, the second a natural boy, I would have thought that in that case he is still the firstborn, because he is the first to come out of a natural way. So who is right, and that is why the Torah, here are some of the rules, it specified all the language to tell you. >> Two conditions are needed: it must be a natural birth and it must be the first to come out, is that right or?

>> Yeah, natural birth and coming out first ; there is also a third condition that there was no miscarriage or abortion before. There you go rabotai, we finished chapter 2. We are going to start the next one anyway so we know what the subject is. Next subject, dear friends, still the same.

>> The same theme. >> The same theme. Locker BMA Minagoï, someone who bought it. >> A cow and he doesn't know now, there's the cow story, he doesn't know if it's a cow that has given birth or hasn't given birth.

>> A new cow entering the stable, it's beautiful, all these subjects, it means look at the Torah, the Gemara doesn't let anything go, so what do we do, and then it had a boy. Rabbi Ishmael says, Rabbi Ishmael says like this. >> Yes, Ishmael. If it's a goat and it's one year old.

>> It's beautiful, eh, look at how they were at the time. If it's a goat, it's one year old, it's certain that it's the first birth. >> Ah yeah. >> Okay.

Because a goat cannot give birth twice in a year. So if you know the goat is one year old, it's the first birth. A sheep, a small sheep, 2 years to enter , to be pregnant, so as long as it hasn't, it's the first baby. A cow or a donkey, they must be at least 3 years old to get pregnant, they can't get pregnant before.

But that's it, so here are the rules, rabbi, what we have, everyone, we agree >> Goat in the first year is the first birth. Sheep in the first year is the first birth. Cow or donkey 3 years is the first birth. If they are older, 4 years, 5 years, there is nothing for the Cohen because it's possible they had already given birth before.

Tinou vegasa chil chapir. He disagrees, he says because you can see, there are signs that the Gemara will talk about, that if there is blood coming out with the placenta and everything, it is possible there was another child inside or a twin. So it is not enough to know the age. >> Of the cow, etc.

You also have to analyze the discharge. What is inside? He made a rule. We'll finish the topic for today If you are sure she had already given birth before because the man told you or you know the signs, the next birth is not for the Cohen.

If you are sure it is the firstborn, based on your own analysis, it is certain the next birth is for the Cohen . If we don't know, the Cohen can't claim anything because he must provide proof himself. The Cohen doesn't have the history, it will stay with the owner.